Hand-troll gurdy questions

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Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby Super Cub » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:05 pm

I am having trouble with search function, so I apologize if this has been covered hundreds of times in the past.... My boat's hydraulics were stripped before I bought it, and I don't have much room for hydraulic gurdies with my current deck configuration until I build a hayrack. In the meantime, I am considering trying to rig manual gurdies so that I can try salmon trolling (I'm currently rigged for albacore trolling with handlines).

I have the original davits from the prior hydraulic system; will these work okay with the addition of gurdies (someone told me that hand-troll davits usually have a longer reach, but I've never actually seen a hand-troller here in Oregon)?

Can anyone recommend a supplier for a reasonably inexpensive yet functional manual gurdy? The only ones I can find on line are Kohlstrands, and they are out of stock / back-ordered at the only NW supplier that shows them on their website. Plus, they are more expensive than I would like to spend knowing that I could put that money toward hydraulics next year.

Could I get away with tearing the reels off of a set of Cannon downriggers, or will I need to use more weight than they could handle? How much weight is required on a hand-troll setup?

Can I run multiple lines per side, or am I limited to one per davit? Can I use my trolling poles to spread them, or should I just stay simple by dropping them straight down from the davits?

Finally, would this severley limit my productivity compared to hydraulics? I know it will be a workout, but can I catch 10-20 chinook per day using a couple of hand gurdies?

Thank for any input.
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Re: Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby Hans2 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:20 am

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Re: Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby Super Cub » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:30 pm

By the way, we're only allowed 4 spreads per line, so I think I can get away with light weights.
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Re: Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby Kelper » Fri May 27, 2011 6:02 am

Do yourself a favor and get yourself a pair of 2 speed gurdies. They'll be spendy, but worth every dime. I was was mad at myself I waited to get mine. They seem to hold their value pretty well too, so you won't be out that money. If you run 11" flashers, you'll need some weight.
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Re: Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby birdfeeder11 » Sat May 28, 2011 5:58 pm

murry pacific in Sitka ak has hand crankers in stock. u will need at least 25lbers in order to catch on your hand gear. Yes use your poles if they are already set up on the boat, spred gear catches better. your davits will work somehow just mount your gurdies and grt the relationship correct with a block. then save some coin and get power gurdies.
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Re: Hand-troll gurdy questions

Postby Super Cub » Sun May 29, 2011 3:22 pm

Thanks for all the input. I am still trying to figure out if I can afford hydro's to start. The areas that I'll likely be fishing are close to 40 fathoms, and a friend mentioned that he sometimes runs 60 fathoms of line with 50# weights, so the hand-cranks probably won't work for long (I think it was Danny Glover who once said, "I'm getting too old for this ****.").

I hadn't seen 2-speed hand-cranks, but I think I can add a used hydraulic system for about the same cost as them.
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