catamount
2014-03-08 22:08:04
Does anyone have any thoughts on a 36' Albion for power troll? Thanks Much
fveureka
2014-03-09 10:56:38
Albion started making boats in Canada in the 60's until the late 80's. some were wood and then fiberglass. I own a fiberglass one made for west coast trolling and long lining, hard chine full displacement, but they made a round chine displacement hull for gill netting with a fly bridge. I crewed on that model during the early 90's gill netting and gulf long lining. I was much braver and hungry then.....There are probably 10 here in SE.
Salty
2014-03-09 18:13:54
Looks like it is set up for crabbing or shrimping. What kind of engine? Can you slow it down enough for trolling without drags? Is it tanked? Can you set it up for separate tanks for brailer bags? Otherwise looks great.
catamount
2014-03-09 19:36:55
Thanks fveureka. It sounds like they are capable enough from your experience. Tellus is yours? Looks great. There are 2 on the Dock Street Brokers site, one 33' and one 36', both the hard chine. The 36' is in AK and comes with a power troll permit, 160hp Mitsubishi main, and packs 7k in four holds. They want 125k for boat alone which seems way high, 150k for boat and permit, so I suppose the permits not a bad deal at 25k. The 33' in Canada is 55k and looks clean (Perkins main). The 50-60k range seems reasonable.
fveureka
2014-03-09 20:42:32
Yes, Salty and Catemount..the Tellus is also set up for hauling crab and shrimp pots. I have a in-line 6 Suzy diesel with just over 4k hours. 3 forward holds tank able and brailers. It did have a chiller but that was taken out so the main hold aft, just ice or drop totes and slush. I looked for a boat from sea to yak and found this on in Campbell River BC a retired husband and wife team own since practically new in 87 trolling sockeye (trolls .3 knots without drags, big alternator..) and live shrimp. The Canadians went through a buy back program in 2007 so It was un-licensed and not on the registered under the new registration rules for boats under 15 cargo tonnage or vessel used for angling. I made a few trips down there run the boat and had the ad-survey done. the previous owner also had a fresh survey so not a problem with my insurance. He was great to work with and got it well under survey-paid for trip up and ad-survey and rode with me to Ketchikan too to complete some customs documents and learn all the redundant systems. I love my Keurig coffee maker.
The banks here tried to get title to the boat via a broker in Seattle, not needed so I forked up more money to solicit their problem.
For Alaska's market right now, the 36' your looking at here given no more documentation on it is needed I assume, what shape it is in, probably is in the ball park on price with permit and dialed into our fisheries. Hope it not the one that did not stop in Ketchikan and does not have a Customs affidavit of Origin. Not sure how that all worked out do you Salty? 150K would be alot for a troll permit and sport boat...
Kelper
2014-03-09 21:25:45
The Tellus is a fine looking boat. How does it do out in the swell? Have you had it off the beach in a good blow?
fveureka
2014-03-09 22:24:52
Hi Kelper, running in the swell across queen Charlotte sound or fishing around Ommaney/Teb she is like a duck in the water. This model was made for west Vancouver Is. coast trolling. It does not want to pitch or roll like the round chine Albion. I caught 1 travel day in a northerly off the beach in April Cape Edgecumbe to Cross sound and rather than push it went inside at Salisbury. My crewman from Georgia said he did not get sea sick, but noticed he spent a lot of time with ralph at the dutch door out back. It is kind of wet with the flair to the bow, going into the ruff, thought it was going to tear the wheel house combing off a couple times, but glad there are a few hiddy holes to dive into and be out of it.
catamount
2014-03-09 23:23:35
Thanks fveureka and salty. It sounds like the 36' comes with all electronics and gear, so maybe not so bad at that price after all. I would have to check on the Customs affidavit. I'm glad to hear it performs well down around Ommaney. I'm a little leery of going the double ender/wood route, as I need something with as few suprises as possible (don't we all) and would rather pay more on this end of the deal and feel confident fishing. What year was yours built Salty?
spike christopher
2014-03-11 20:41:39
We have several in the Cook Inlet area and they are a great vessel for just about any thing. Some where used as a charter boats for the sport fishery.
I fished next to them when I was running a 42 foot delta hull. Here is what I found out about the square chine hulls. What ever the angle of the wave will be the angle of the boat, it is like standing on a piece of plywood, if the angle of the wave is 30 degrees that will be the angle of the deck, I'm talking about being in the trough. The round chine starts off the same but quickly starts to straighten up. As the waves get larger the round chine becomes a slower easier ride. I thought at times I would snap my head off in the steep waves of Cook Inlet. I have run in a following sea with the Albion and they were fine.