Enough Boat,...(?) or "You're gonna regret that,.."

Kodiakrain

2013-02-02 10:30:38

I'm a brand new poster here,...gonna slaughter you guys with questions,..

but my first,

Is this going to be enough boat to be a Realistic Power Trolling Platform,...or am I going to be sitting on the hook all summer

or offshore getting thrashed in the "Normal SE Summer," weather,...

Will I potentially have plenty to do, even if the weather keeps me on the inside

Here it is, a former Canadian rig,...36ft, built by Sather,...

reworked it heavy at Port Townsend last winter,...so it's solid wood wise

has a 150hp Hino 6cyl, kind of a toy mast, at this point,...just a longliner/jig boat, but it's heritage, is trolling

and is a little bit small for the western stuff

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I'm just thinking, it may be an "Inside Passage," Troller/Gillnetter,...and maybe if I dive into the Power Troll Fishery,...I'm going to

be wistfully watching the big boys stay out there,...when I'm tuckin tail,...too much ??

a little of my history, I have been Comm Fishing since the early eighties, mostly Longlining West of Kodiak

have owned two other wood vessels throughout my days, so I know what that entails,...

and I do know what can happen and how fast,... off shore, no matter what time of year

mostly, I'm seriously considering PowerTrolling, to be putting in some high quality product,

a bit weary of the P Cod price hammering we get as Jig/Longline guys,...

so, with a small well equipped boat, will I be able to keep steady work going, chasing stuff inside, say Humpies and Dogs, etc.

Fishhold cap. is small, something like two 4000lb holds

afteryou

2013-02-02 17:08:27

Kodiakrain, The boat you have there is just as good a boat as half of our fleet maybe more. I owned a Canadian gillneter just like that. It is still out fishing year round. There are days every summer that only the big boys can make it to the fish and we all watch and wish. But a boat big enough to disregard weather even in the summer is a lot of boat for a trolling income alone. So if you plan on being relaxed and easy going that boat will be great. If you really want to hit it hard and be the best you should probably look for a forty plus foot steel rig.

Welcome to the forum :D

Salty

2013-02-02 18:01:10

I agree with afteryou. Most of the troll fishery in SE Alaska is within 3 miles of the beach. Most of us seldom drift at night. There are many places to fish in the lee of a cape or in the straits. 8,000 pounds is plenty of capacity if the boat can handle that load or close to it in a lump and a little wind on it. Take a look at some of the pictures posted in the Pictures thread. I am thinking of the one I took of the Morgan in September back tacking with the gear out into 30 plus SE. Page Three of Marilyn and Eric Jordan boats. That is a 32 foot Monterey Clipper.

My boat is 34 feet on the keel, 37 overall. It can take way more than I want to. I fish up to 200 days a year in SE. I seldom miss a day from April-September. And in spite of my handle here, named after my dad's first troller, I am about the wimpiest guy in the fleet as far as fishing in tough weather. Your boat is fine for most of the troll fishery in SE Alaska.

afteryou

2013-02-02 18:32:47

Hey, Salty what did your dads boat look like? is it still around? if not I might know where it is.

afteryou

2013-02-02 18:56:56

Salty

2013-02-02 19:01:28

He owned three boats in SE:

The "Salty", pictured in the Marilyn and Eric Jordan boats thread in the Pictures section on this forum.

The "Triking", fished one year in 53 after the "Nohusit" blew up at the fuel dock in Ketchikan.

We fished the "Nohusit" from 54-65.

The "Salty" might still be around, Mother was on it in the 80's somewhere and recognized some cabinets Skip built. I think the Triking and the Nohusit are both long gone.

Thanks for asking.

Kodiakrain

2013-02-02 20:45:20

"8,000 pounds is plenty of capacity if the boat can handle that load or close to it in a lump"

I agree that sounds pretty heavy for one of those boats. I think maybe five thousand pounds would be a lot safer. It depends on the height of the stern deck. Does it still have the old school gillnet deck, or has it been flushed? I can't tell from the pic.

I'm actually not sure it ever had the old school Gillnet "Cockpit," if that's what they call it (lower working area aft)

It is flush to the stern and has a standard Troll Cockpit,

one of those with grooves worn in the deck where a guy was working the gear out of that cockpit,..for a lot of years

has a Lot of flotation in the stern as the Laz is about 6ft long

then I did some bulkhead work in the main fishhold, which was formerly one large dry hold (I'd guess it at about 12-15000 lb cap ??)

(maybe one of you who know this style better can tell me if I'm exaggerating that guess)

So, I now have two small holds on the sides of the main raised hatch,...they might be 3k each,

I was designing for small trip Blackcod fishing, so is not really a numbers driven set-up

Carries 300 gal fuel,...and it seems to hold the stern pretty high when full of fuel and water

I haven't fished it hard yet, but ran up from PT last spring, to Kodiak and she runs nice in as much as 4-6 footers

crossed the Gulf in some mostly following seas that big,...was not bad,...the rest of the trip, flat calm

Thanks for your replies, that's really good info,...

Kodiakrain

2013-02-02 21:26:45

Here's a good pic of the stern,

with troll cockpit covers on, and the smaller hatch covers on sides of the Raised Hatch,...those are the fishholds

the Raised hatch drops down to a shaft alley area, access to an aft dry hold and/or the engine room

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this was probably full of fresh water, which is in the forward part of Laz (70gal)

and just the fuel burned from Sitka to Pelican, less than fully topped off,

a fair amount of gear forward, but not in the thousands of pounds,...

so there's quite a bit of room to bring her down