Exposure
Carol W
2013-01-08 06:02:44
I posted this on another thread but here it is again I urge everyone who thinks the coop isn't worrking for them to look at this site; http://primeseafood.com/salmon.html
Keep your hand on it
Tom
salmon4u
2013-01-08 06:11:42
very nice!
gumpucky
2013-01-08 16:15:14
Soooo....If I'm reading this right the Co op is supporting foreign farmed fish operations. How long has this been going on and how does that benefit me as a "WILD" fish provider? As a Co op member in good standing it appears I'm supporting the very industry that, as I've been led to believe, wants to see mine disappear. I know I'd like to see theirs disappear. Is there something I'm not cluing up here? Please...Somebody...Educate me.
FV_Wild_Card
2013-01-08 17:53:19
It's Prime Seafood's web site. Prime Seafood is a Washington DC wholesale distributor who sells SPC products along with many others. It's NOT the coop selling farmed fish.
Mhtroller
2013-01-08 18:35:25
This is how bad rumors get started that hurt us all. we all need to be careful about what we read and post. not to attack you gumpucky but now the next person that just scans through without reading carefully sees your post and assumes bad things about the coop, and then heads down to the dock to spread the bad news. The first line on the link given is "We provide troll-caught wild king (like that above) and coho salmon (pictured below) taken primarily from Southeast Alaska, but also from Washington state and northern California (see the harvest area map below).". How could that be more clear?
take er easy
and if she's easy
take er again!
gumpucky
2013-01-08 19:41:38
Whew my bad,thanks for educating me... But...I still take exception to farmed fish being touted on the co op website in any form or fashion or connecting link.I wasn't aware that I had left the co op site. I think anyone just scanning through could get the same impression.
Salty
2013-01-08 19:58:49
[attachment=0]Winter King Feb 6th 2002.jpg[/attachment]Wow,
Great article, I loved the detail, thanks Tom. My dad before me, myself, and now my son have been, are, and will be SPC members. I also liked the inclusion of the white king.
Here is one of those kings in flake ice slush.
Mhtroller
2013-01-08 20:41:00
I dont see where farmed fish are being touted anywhere on the coop site or this thread.
gumpucky
2013-01-08 20:53:22
Carol W
2013-01-08 22:11:23
Yeah Gumpucky you are right but it seems that Primeseafoods main emphasis is quality caught hook and line caught seafood which is far more than the other big companies websites emphasis is. I thought it was very cool that one of the customers of the coop would do so much to show case our fishery,and they slammed the other fish farms that are harming our industry. They also seemed to be very selective as to the farm they are buying from, my guess is if we had enough wild king salmon to supply their market that is what they would be selling.
The major competition against our coho are not farmed fish but rather Bristol Bay sockeye.
One of the major threats I see in the troll fishery is that most of the seafood companies are getting bigger and need more production than the troll fleet can provide and are increasingly looking at troll fish as a by product that they would as soon not deal with.
So yes even though Primeseafoods does market farm salmon, our product and fleet are showcased more than any other seafood company I have found to date and think it is cool and if you click on the "flashers" in the text you can see what magic gear Eric is dragging around.
And lastly it is not the coop website but rather primeseafoods emphasising the coop. And doing it rather well.
Keep your hand on it
Tom
That's just marketing. This study by harvard medical school, shows the faroe islands to have the highest levels of PCBs of the farmed salmon tested.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0404b.shtml
gumpucky
2013-01-08 23:00:06
Thanks Tom, I've already copped to drifting off our website onto someone elses by mistake and got caught with my pants down. Just a knee jerk reaction to reading all our good stuff and how mean and rotten the farmed fish industry is to all of a sudden seeing....BUT ...."this" farmed fish is ok. Seems to me we're indirectly giving a thumbs up to farmed fish.Just sayin.
Salty
2013-01-09 02:24:02
I was in DC four years ago and happened to get housed with a guy from Germany who was head of the biggest seafood distributor in Germany's organic division. We had several interesting conversations over the course of three days between inaugural activities. He said it was fine for us to believe in wild salmon but that there wasn't enough wild salmon in the world to fill even the highest grade markets. Farmed fish, like farmed cattle, sheep, and domestic fowl, are absolutely necessary to feed the world. I learned quite a bit and ended up with an invite to visit and stay with him if I ever got to Germany.
Doesn't mean any piece of beef or chicken can ever compare to the wild venison and geese I still get a chance to harvest and eat on occasion, but I confess to consuming some of both. So, my point is, we shouldn't complain about our seafood sellers who also sell farmed fish, but celebrate their belief that the highest quality salmon they sell is wild troll caught ocean fresh.
And Tom, I have not used those flashers, black snubbers, or coho spoons of that flavor in many years. The hootchie looks similar to one I used to use when we could keep kings during most of the coho season. I sure hope no one thinks about using that gear while trollers are trying to avoid Chinook while targeting coho. But then, as revealed all over this site, I am confused most of the time.
Once and Future
2013-01-09 02:51:28
I eat and enjoy quite a bit of venison, but I consider it almost an acquired taste, as I used to not like it. I do not think of wild salmon the same way - it's not gamey. However, proper cooking technique is critical in both cases. "Gamey" to me means "tastes a bit like liver".
I would not say venison is "better" flavored than beef, in my personal opinion. The power of suggestion is so important. I have a sister-in-law that is so into healthy eating she can convince herself an apple pie with no sugar and whole wheat crust tastes best. Actually, now that I think about it, that was years ago. She has come back to the dark side. And I get along with her better now.
My buddies who are duck hunters cooked me some so I could see how great it was. I was not persuaded. Grouse, on the other hand...
Salty
2013-01-09 02:55:08
Sitka black tailed deer venison tastes better to me than beef. But, then I grew up eating it way more than beef.
Carol W
2013-01-09 03:50:59
Hey Eric I knew you didn't use that gear i was just giving you a little friendly jab.
Salty
2013-01-09 04:43:21
Thanks Tom, I need a few more jabs.
Refinancing the house, selling the guns, taking inventory of gear prepatory to selling most of it, put the wife to work, and going on a diet, all just so I can go trolling another year and go further in the hole. Just got a text from my gillnet friend with a nice picture of the beach he has been hanging out on in Hawaii for the last month or so.
Want to buy some only slightly used coho spoons, plugs, hooks, hootchies, flashers, bugs, wire, gaffs?